[Dalla]

Hi,

I have read that samsung 4k q90a has a better picture, and less blooming, than samsung 8k900a? HDTVtest says this, and also rtings. Rtings gave the 8k model a really bad score for picture quality and blooming.

What is your thoughts on this? In my eyes this seems strangs as their top of the line is worse then their second best.

I am going to buy a new samsung tv this year, and i was thinking about going for the 8k 900b, but this makes me unsure. Do you think the picture quality will be the same this year, with the 4k screen beeting the 8k screen?

Would love your input on this.

[Rasmus Larsen]

Is that the QN90A? Remember that it's IPS LCD in Europe. As for blooming, QN92A with VA LCD (QN90A in the US) has high levels of blooming. See our review here: https://www.flatpanels.dk/test.php?suba ... 1623648089

I don't have experience with QN900A but I don't see any point in paying more for an 8K TV at this time.

[Rasmus Larsen]

The 2022 models will have the same number of dimming zones and brightness characteristics as the 2021 models. Confirmed by Samsung here: https://www.flatpanels.dk/fokusartikel. ... 1643367733

[Dalla]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare ... shold=0.10

Here you can see what I mean: Q90a preforms better with blacks, than the high end q900a. IMO this is strange when q900a has way more minileds than q90a.

I agree with 8k being no use, but was considering q900b because it has way more minileds than q90b.

But this make me very unsure. I cant wrap my head around how this is possible.

To be easy, how can their top 8k be worse then their top 4k.

Would you just go for the top 4k? Or do you recon their top 8k will be better than their top 4k this year

[Rasmus Larsen]

Yes, that's the US version of QN90A (VA LCD). It is, unfortunately, an entirely different LCD TV from the European version of QN90A (IPS LCD). If you want the equivalent in Europe you need to look at the QN92A.

I don't know why black is so elevated on QN900A in Rtings' review but measuring black on zone dimming LCD TVs can be very hard as the zones react sometimes unpredictably to elements in picture such as the white cross. That's also why black is often elevated watching movies and games on zone dimming LCD TVs.

[Dalla]

HDTVtest also said the same thing. the 8k edition is very bad on blooming and blacks. The 4k edition is better...

For me, this is strange. When getting the best tv from samsung, you might get a worse tv. If you get me?

Would you just go with the 95b 4k edit in 2022, or would you go with the 900b 8k edition? If money was no issue. What is the best tv.

in 2021 it seems as everyone seems that the 95a (us 90a) is better than the 900a.

[Rasmus Larsen]

My recommendation would be an OLED TV. You get significantly better picture quality and save money on the same time, except for the 75/77" and 83/85" classes but they are getting there too.

If you are only in the market for a high-end LCD TV, I would recommend Samsung QN91A, QN92A, QN93A or QN95A (with One Connect). Forget about the IPS LCD QN90A. If you are not in a rush maybe Sony's X95K could be relevant. I expect them to announce pricing between March and May.

[Dalla]

Thank you. But you agree that its crazy how samsung could release a 8K produkt thats worse than 4k edition, even tho its much more expensiv.

I am in the ballpark for 85 inch, thats why i have landed on LCD. OLED is way to expensive?

Also, i am looking to buy a tv this year, so its going to be 2022 edition

[Rasmus Larsen]

Well yes it is surprising that it the more expensive model has lower performance. Maybe it's a different panel supplier or backlight supplier.

I remember that we've talked before here on the forums but I don't remember where you're from? In Denmark, a 83" LG OLED TV is less expensive than a 85" Samsung QN95A
LG: https://www.pricerunner.dk/pl/2-3200084 ... ign-Priser
Samsung: https://www.pricerunner.dk/pl/2-3200100 ... ign-Priser

Of course, it depends on the week (discounts) but you can get 83" OLED for 35.000 DKK in some weeks which is starting to look attractive.

[Dalla]

From norway!

So you would recommend an OLED G2 83 over 85 qn95b?

The only thing i am scared about is burn-in. Was considering going for the qn900b, but if i understand you, its not wize. 95b is just as good?

The tv has to be practic, cant be prone to burn-in, and goes well with the sonos system, connecting the whole house with knx and sonos amps.

[Rasmus Larsen]

You will get a much better picture experience with LG G2 as compared to Samsung QN95B, in my opinion, and yes that would be my recommendation.

No one can guarantee that burn-in will not happen but the latest OLED panels appear to be much more resistant. We hear the same thing from TV makers, unofficially. I mean that there are very few cases of burn-in on the more recent OLED panels (2018+). Of course, consumers would be more at ease if burn-in was covered under warranty. Burn-in and to a much larger degree backlight issues can also happen on LCD panels. I own two LCDs with burn-in, for example. We hear about LCD backlight issues like these on LCD TVs from time to time: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=52793

I see no issues with connecting Sonos to any brand of TV. The Sonos system remains in control.

[Dalla]

what about nits. do they light enoug?

Do you have any arguments on why buy samsung 95b over g2, except 2 more inces

[PeterD]

what about nits. do they light enoug?

Yes.

How much light do you want?

You dont wanna hurt your eyes when watching a snowy landscape for more than 480 seconds...

[George1]

what about nits. do they light enoug?

Do you have any arguments on why buy samsung 95b over g2, except 2 more inces

Jes More nits, antirefletion-screen, probably 10 years garenti burn in.