Debat og råd om TV-skærme. Alt hvad der handler om køb og brug af fladskærme

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Af Petermyrup1978
#195729
Hej

Vi står og skal have nyt fjernsyn. Efter at have stået og beundret det super skarpe billede på min kammerats nye tv......nemlig det jeg har linket til herunder, er jeg blevet ret hooked på at få noget bedre.

http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/tv-rad ... x-l47et60y

Dog er mit budget ikke oppe i samme niveau. Lige pt har jeg et efterhånden ældre Sony Bravia 40" LCD.

Jeg har kigget på følgende to modeller, som mere er indenfor min budgetramme, på ca 5000 kr.

http://edbsen.dk/led-259/samsung-ue46f6 ... ricerunner

http://www.bilka.dk/elektronik/tv-foto- ... /100057027

Er der nogen herinde der har erfaringer med en eller begge af disse modeller?

Hilsen Peter
Af jumpmaster
#195745
Drop det fra Bilka pga det har ikke DVB-T2. (jeg siger ikke du nødvendigvis skal købe det andet).
Vigtigt i mine øjne:
- PVR Optag til harddisk via USB
- Dual tuner (Så du kan optage et og se noget andet imens)
- DVB-T2

God jagt
Jan
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Af edinger
#195750
HDTVtest skrev:
Sony W6

CONCLUSION – Up until last year, a 42 inch LCD-based TV almost certainly points to the use of IPS-type panel whose contrast performance often disappoints. This year, we’ve tested at least two HDTVs with 42″ screen size which feature VA LCD panels, delivering the sort of deep blacks commonly associated with top-tier LED LCDs.

The Sony KDL-42W653A is one such TV: it handles both HD and SD feeds with great composure, and is above all a supreme large-screen gaming display. A few people may lament the omission of tri-dimensional capability, but given the lacklustre reception to 3D among the general public, we’re sure some potential buyers would gladly give this up in exchange for a more affordable price.


PICTURE QUALITY – The Sony KDL-42W653A uses a VA-type LCD panel supplied by Taiwanese vendor AUO (AU Optronics), which translates to deep blacks by LED LCD standards. On a 4×4 ANSI checkerboard pattern, we measured the TV’s black level to be 0.046 cd/m2 which is on par with this year’s VA-based high-end LED televisions like the Sony W9 as well as the Samsung F7000 and F8000. As is the case with most LED LCDs, the W653 dimmed its backlight down to 0.022 cd/m2 when asked to display a full black screen.

Considering its edge LED makeup and svelte build, our KDL42W653 review sample exhibited surprisingly good backlight uniformity, without any sign of clouding or corner bleed. A subtle dirty screen effect (DSE) was visible in the centre of the panel particularly when we put up 20% to 30% stimulus full-field grey patterns, but to be honest this is pretty much unavoidable on all large-sized edge-lit LED TVs due to the way a limited number of LED bulbs (which are placed along the borders) are required to illuminate the entire screen. The DSE on our Sony W6 review unit was extremely mild, and rarely bothered us in real-world content.

The KDL42W653A is advertised by Sony as featuring Motionflow XR 200Hz, but it’s important to understand that this is simply a figure for marketing purposes (similar to Samsung’s Clear Motion Rate or LG’s TruMotion), rather than the true refresh rate of the TV. Running our reference motion resolution test pattern (Chapter 31 in the FPD Benchmark Software disc) on the Bravia W65 returned a result of 300 which is what we would expect natively from an LCD panel without the help of MCFI (motion-compensated frame interpolation).

Interestingly, the Sony W653 doesn’t have any [Motionflow] control available in its user menu, but does offer an [LED Motion Mode] option which activates backlight scanning on the television. When enabled, motion resolution jumped to 1080 (the maximum value possible in the FPD Benchmark test pattern), but three undesirable side effects ensued: a drop in luminance; increased flicker that was especially noticeable on bright scenes; and double ghosted image on moving objects. In other words, although [LED Motion Mode] significantly reduced motion blur, it came with several shortcomings which made it pretty much unusable in our opinion. Your mileage may vary.

While we’re at it, we ran our custom “motion interpolation checker” pattern on the KDL42W653A, and verified that no forced motion interpolation took place in any of the [Scene Select] presets. Having no MCFI forcibly applied is particularly relevant for the [Cinema] mode which is our picture preset of choice for critical viewing – the last thing we want is for the cinematic quality of 24fps movies to be subverted by ugly soap opera effect.

HD feed looked nothing short of stunning, helped immensely by the set’s deep blacks and balanced colours. 1080p/24 signal from Blu-ray playback was presented impeccably without any sign of telecine judder. The Sony KDL42W653 is no slouch at handling standard-definition content too, delivering crisp upconversion without excessive ringing, as well as competent film cadence detection, though the TV’s jaggies suppression for video-based material was not as effective as Samsung’s or Panasonic’s (to be fair, the difference was more marked in HQV Benchmark than in real-life content).

Sony’s 2013 Bravias have proven to be superb gaming TVs, and the W65 is no exception. With [Scene Select] set to “Game“, the 42W653A effortlessly smashed through our existing input lag record (held by another Sony – the W8), posting a jaw-dropping figure of 14.6ms on the Leo Bodnar lag tester. Engaging [LED Motion Mode] – should you wish to do so – barely increased the lag by a mere 6ms to 20.5ms which is an excellent level of responsiveness no other non-Sony HDTVs have been capable of matching to date. Add full 4:4:4 reproduction (in [Game] and [Graphics] mode) to the equation, and we’re convinced you won’t find a better flat-screen television on which to play video games at the moment.


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Pricerunner: Sony Bravia KDL-50W656A (link).


Ikke vigtigt i mine øjne:

- PVR Optag til harddisk via USB
- Dual tuner (Så du kan optage et og se noget andet imens)
- DVB-T2

...idet funktioner udover den primære, billedkvalitet, altid vil kunne håndteres, og også ofte bedre, via en ekstern boks.
Af Globulus
#195751
jumpmaster skrev:Drop det fra Bilka pga det har ikke DVB-T2. (jeg siger ikke du nødvendigvis skal købe det andet).
Vigtigt i mine øjne:
- PVR Optag til harddisk via USB
- Dual tuner (Så du kan optage et og se noget andet imens)
- DVB-T2

God jagt
Jan
Hvad snakker du om? Selvfølgelig har det fra Bilka DVB-T2.
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Af MigSelv
#195755
jumpmaster skrev:Drop det fra Bilka pga det har ikke DVB-T2. (jeg siger ikke du nødvendigvis skal købe det andet).
Vigtigt i mine øjne:
- PVR Optag til harddisk via USB
- Dual tuner (Så du kan optage et og se noget andet imens)
- DVB-T2

God jagt
Jan
Det har da i allerhøleste grad dvb-t2 tuner. Hvordan kommer du frem til, at denne tuner mangler?
Det står sågar anført i de øverste linier.
Af Petermyrup1978
#195756
Hvis vi nu ser bort fra DVB-T2 tuneren (som den jo har) :) . Er det så nogle gode fjernsyn, eller skal jeg se efter noget andet?

Jeg er egentlig ligeglad med 3D, Smart-TV osv. Jeg vil bare gerne have et lækkert og knivskarpt billede.....og helst omkring de 46".
Af PeterD
#195763
Umiddelbart ja.

Hmm.Men ET60 er ikke et dårligt tv. Læs selv anmeldelser af tvet.

Selvfølgelig er det over budgettet, men til dit budget får du mest billedekvalitet med en plasmaskærm, at der så er andre grunde til at vælge en LCD/LED er helt fint
Af Petermyrup1978
#195764
Så er det jo bare rigtigt irriterende at budgettet ER på max 5.000 kr :(
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Af edinger
#195773
Petermyrup1978 skrev:
PeterD skrev:Sony W6?

Men er det ikke korrekt at Sony W6 kun fåes som 32", 42" og 50" ?
Beklager hvis det kommer på tværs af konens krav til boligindretning.

Jeg antog i al min naivitet, at de ekstra 3 tommer var et kærkomment plus, som det nok var værd at tage med O_O
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Af edinger
#195777
Jeg vil foreslå, at du "genforhandler". For "3 meter fra sofa til tv" er bestemt ikke et argument i konens favør. Og det er da under alle omstændigheder synd og skam, hvis det skal strande på differencen mellem 47 og 50 tommer, når nu du i W6 kan få så glimrende en skærm til så attråværdig en pris.