Debat og råd om TV-skærme. Alt hvad der handler om køb og brug af fladskærme

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#184978
Jeg regner nu ikke med at oled teknologien er modnet før vi får 2 generation af dem m en 5-6 år.

Kunne aldrig finde på at købe første gen af en helt ny teknologi, jeg forestiller mig at børne sygdommene kommer væltende når de først bliver sat i masse produktion.

Tror heller ikke de er betalelige før om en håndfuld år.
#184980
OLED skærme bliver til skyhøje priser hvor den almindelig forbruger ikke kan være med.

Og de høje prise vil ikke falde markant i lang tid, som man ser det sidst på året med led.

Så må man se hvor længe de holder til det.
Af Sjavse
#185001
PeterD skrev:Enig mht Samsung!!

Det kan godt være nogle Pana buzzer, men "en slag med tasken" er at Samsung tv oftere end andre mærker skal til reparation...

Måske kører deres fabrikker lidt for hurtigt for dem...?

Har du noget belæg for din udtalelse omkring Samsung er hyppigere til reparation?

Samsung er det mest solgte mærke indenfor tv, så det er vel ikke så mærkeligt at der er flere Samsung modeller til reparation?...
Af PeterD
#185004
More Than 7 Million Samsung TVs Plagued By Possible Power Defect"

MIAMI (CBS4) – TV on! TV off! That’s what most of us expect a new TV to do. Phil Heermance certainly did when he bought his 40-inch Samsung LCD TV in 2009.

“About a-year-and-a-half into owning the TV, it started acting up,” Heermance told CBS4′ Chief Consumer Investigator Al Sunshine.

He told Sunshine that it acted erratic… not always coming on… or taking long periods to power up. That was the same complaint thousands of Samsung owners described on the Internet. Their “nearly new” Samsung TV…” was taking 30-seconds, then 30-minutes, or even longer to come on.


So you try to turn it on and what happened after a while?” asked Sunshine.

“It would just not come on at all,” replied Heermance.

Because his manufacturers warranty had expired, Heermance figured Samsung wouldn’t help… so he paid $150 to get it fixed on his own.

TV repairman, Cliff Van Allen, showed CBS4 the tiny part causing so many Samsung TV power failures. It’s called a “capacitor.” Basically, it’s a power storage device.

“It’s not because it’s an inferior product. It’s because the voltage (on the capacitor) is not enough to do the job, said Van Allen, who owns Video Cleaning Repair in Miami.

Rosemary’s shop has also seen a wave of Samsung capacitor problems.

“The power boards are made with capacitors that don’t hold up,” Rosemary said.

Capacitors are only a $3 to $6 part. So cheap, “Fix It Youself” videos are even on YouTube

“It seemed to be a common problem and I was surprised to hear that,” said Heermance, who owns other Samsung products.

Class Action Lawsuits have been filed in New Jersey, California and Oklahoma. Although Samsung wouldn’t tell us how many TVs are affected… CBS4 Investigates obtained an Oklahoma Court document from a hearing on February 1, 2012. It quotes Samsung’s attorney, Phillip G. Whaley, telling the court…

“Well, I think there’ll be as many as seven-and-a-half million of them out there. So it could be a big class.” (class action lawsuit).

A Samsung statement sent to CBS4 said…

“A small percentage of certain models of Samsung televisions have experienced performance issues caused by a component called a capacitor. Since originally confirming this issue in early 2010, Samsung has voluntarily provided free repairs for U.S. customers with affected televisions.

As the leading supplier of televisions in the United States, we remain committed to delivering superior technology and excellent service to our loyal customers. We encourage our customers to call 1-800-SAMSUNG if they experience any problems with Samsung products.

We have recently reached a preliminary settlement, subject to court approval, for a nationwide resolution of a related class action lawsuit in the District Court of Oklahoma County in the state of Oklahoma. Under the settlement, Samsung will continue to offer the free repairs that have already been extended to affected consumers. A second class action lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey in late 2010, has been administratively terminated by that court.”

- Samsung Electronics America

Click Here To Read Preliminary List of Samsung Models

“Thank God there are people out there who say, ‘I’m not taking that!’ I paid my money. It should not die in 2-years,” said Van Allen.



Rosemary added, “I don’t fault the sellers. I fault the manufacturers. The manufacturers have to know that they’re putting crap out there. I can tell you that it’s not only Samsung.”

As our repair techs point out, no matter what brand of TV you buy, today’s TVs aren’t being made to last long.

Remember your mom and dad’s TV that lasted 15, even 20-years? They were big, boxy and remarkably reliable. Well today’s TV is NOT your parents TV.

Rosemary demonstrated using a 2009 big screen TV. As she knocked on the TV screen as if she were knocking on a door… she exclaimed, “Paper!”

Then she knocked on the screen of a 1998 TV.

“Tempered glass. You need a hammer to break that.”

She also showed us a TV that recently came into her shop and can’t be repaired. It was bought on Black Friday just two months ago. According to Rosemary, while moving it, the owner used her shoulder to brace it. The indentation on the screen is the result of a tender-leaning shoulder and nothing more.

“You buy a 50-inch Plasma set, you probably paid $4,000 to $5,000, and you’re looking two to three years after, and you can’t fix it? Ridiculous!” Rosemary declared.

In the TV graveyards that exist at both repair shops CBS4 visited, there were stacks of expensive TVs… abandoned for what can only be called “pre-mature failure,” according to our repair techs.

“I don’t think a panel should be bad in 2 1/2 years! A panel shouldn’t be bad in 10-years. But it is,” Van Allen told us as he showed us big screen TV.

And Samsung’s not alone. Another TV was left by its owner at Cliff’s shop. Why? The repair would be more than the original cost of the TV.

“This thing should be on the guy’s wall still,” Van Allen lamented.

“In my opinion,” said Rosemary, “basically the TVs today are obsolete after two years because the parts are changed.”

That’s right. According to our CBS4 investigation, only five states require manufacturers to make parts available longer than two to three years. Those states are California, Connecticut, Indiana, Rhode Island and New Hampshire… NOT Florida.

But consumers aren’t blameless noted Van Allen. “You know, everyone wants the latest and greatest and they don’t think… will this last?”

It’s not just Samsung. Most television manufacturers have had all kinds of issues with Plasma TVs, DLP TVs, LCD TVs… and now repair shops tell CBS4 Investigates, they are bracing for customers buying the new LED TVs

Additional Statements from Samsung Electronics America:

On February 1, 2012, preliminary approval was officially granted on the settlement of Russell, et al. v. Samsung Electronics America, Inc., in the District Court of Oklahoma County in the state of Oklahoma. A similar lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey in late 2010, was administratively dismissed by the court.

The Oklahoma settlement reaffirms that Samsung’s efforts to voluntarily repair affected products for consumers since early 2010, have been appropriate for the situation. In addition, Samsung will compensate any consumers who have already made repairs at their own expense. A nationwide announcement will be made in the coming weeks explaining the steps consumers need to take if they believe they have an affected product. For your information and reference we have attached the summary notice of that decision, which has been on the public record since the settlement was reached.

As the leading supplier of televisions in the United States we remain committed to delivering superior technology and excellent service to our loyal customers. We encourage our customers to call 1-800-SAMSUNG if they experience any problems with Samsung products.

“The problem does not affect current models so there is no need to contact retailers.”

“Affected consumers will receive a notice as provided for in the settlement agreement, once approved by the court. Per Samsung’s standard policy, in-home repairs are offered for all sizes above 32”. For 32” and smaller, products must be shipped to NJ, but Samsung will cover all costs (in both directions).”

“Also, once the settlement is approved a process will be put into place to compensate consumers who have already paid for a repair.”

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/02/09/mo ... er-defect/

Du vil alligevel ikke tro mig. Så det kan være lige meget....Køb du et Samsung. Du får nok et tilbud alligevel...Vær glad for det og kryds fingre....

Billig betyder ikke bedre...

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Penge/2011/05/11/065403.htm
Af Sjavse
#185011
PeterD skrev:More Than 7 Million Samsung TVs Plagued By Possible Power Defect"

MIAMI (CBS4) – TV on! TV off! That’s what most of us expect a new TV to do. Phil Heermance certainly did when he bought his 40-inch Samsung LCD TV in 2009.

“About a-year-and-a-half into owning the TV, it started acting up,” Heermance told CBS4′ Chief Consumer Investigator Al Sunshine.

He told Sunshine that it acted erratic… not always coming on… or taking long periods to power up. That was the same complaint thousands of Samsung owners described on the Internet. Their “nearly new” Samsung TV…” was taking 30-seconds, then 30-minutes, or even longer to come on.


So you try to turn it on and what happened after a while?” asked Sunshine.

“It would just not come on at all,” replied Heermance.

Because his manufacturers warranty had expired, Heermance figured Samsung wouldn’t help… so he paid $150 to get it fixed on his own.

TV repairman, Cliff Van Allen, showed CBS4 the tiny part causing so many Samsung TV power failures. It’s called a “capacitor.” Basically, it’s a power storage device.

“It’s not because it’s an inferior product. It’s because the voltage (on the capacitor) is not enough to do the job, said Van Allen, who owns Video Cleaning Repair in Miami.

Rosemary’s shop has also seen a wave of Samsung capacitor problems.

“The power boards are made with capacitors that don’t hold up,” Rosemary said.

Capacitors are only a $3 to $6 part. So cheap, “Fix It Youself” videos are even on YouTube

“It seemed to be a common problem and I was surprised to hear that,” said Heermance, who owns other Samsung products.

Class Action Lawsuits have been filed in New Jersey, California and Oklahoma. Although Samsung wouldn’t tell us how many TVs are affected… CBS4 Investigates obtained an Oklahoma Court document from a hearing on February 1, 2012. It quotes Samsung’s attorney, Phillip G. Whaley, telling the court…

“Well, I think there’ll be as many as seven-and-a-half million of them out there. So it could be a big class.” (class action lawsuit).

A Samsung statement sent to CBS4 said…

“A small percentage of certain models of Samsung televisions have experienced performance issues caused by a component called a capacitor. Since originally confirming this issue in early 2010, Samsung has voluntarily provided free repairs for U.S. customers with affected televisions.

As the leading supplier of televisions in the United States, we remain committed to delivering superior technology and excellent service to our loyal customers. We encourage our customers to call 1-800-SAMSUNG if they experience any problems with Samsung products.

We have recently reached a preliminary settlement, subject to court approval, for a nationwide resolution of a related class action lawsuit in the District Court of Oklahoma County in the state of Oklahoma. Under the settlement, Samsung will continue to offer the free repairs that have already been extended to affected consumers. A second class action lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey in late 2010, has been administratively terminated by that court.”

- Samsung Electronics America

Click Here To Read Preliminary List of Samsung Models

“Thank God there are people out there who say, ‘I’m not taking that!’ I paid my money. It should not die in 2-years,” said Van Allen.



Rosemary added, “I don’t fault the sellers. I fault the manufacturers. The manufacturers have to know that they’re putting crap out there. I can tell you that it’s not only Samsung.”

As our repair techs point out, no matter what brand of TV you buy, today’s TVs aren’t being made to last long.

Remember your mom and dad’s TV that lasted 15, even 20-years? They were big, boxy and remarkably reliable. Well today’s TV is NOT your parents TV.

Rosemary demonstrated using a 2009 big screen TV. As she knocked on the TV screen as if she were knocking on a door… she exclaimed, “Paper!”

Then she knocked on the screen of a 1998 TV.

“Tempered glass. You need a hammer to break that.”

She also showed us a TV that recently came into her shop and can’t be repaired. It was bought on Black Friday just two months ago. According to Rosemary, while moving it, the owner used her shoulder to brace it. The indentation on the screen is the result of a tender-leaning shoulder and nothing more.

“You buy a 50-inch Plasma set, you probably paid $4,000 to $5,000, and you’re looking two to three years after, and you can’t fix it? Ridiculous!” Rosemary declared.

In the TV graveyards that exist at both repair shops CBS4 visited, there were stacks of expensive TVs… abandoned for what can only be called “pre-mature failure,” according to our repair techs.

“I don’t think a panel should be bad in 2 1/2 years! A panel shouldn’t be bad in 10-years. But it is,” Van Allen told us as he showed us big screen TV.

And Samsung’s not alone. Another TV was left by its owner at Cliff’s shop. Why? The repair would be more than the original cost of the TV.

“This thing should be on the guy’s wall still,” Van Allen lamented.

“In my opinion,” said Rosemary, “basically the TVs today are obsolete after two years because the parts are changed.”

That’s right. According to our CBS4 investigation, only five states require manufacturers to make parts available longer than two to three years. Those states are California, Connecticut, Indiana, Rhode Island and New Hampshire… NOT Florida.

But consumers aren’t blameless noted Van Allen. “You know, everyone wants the latest and greatest and they don’t think… will this last?”

It’s not just Samsung. Most television manufacturers have had all kinds of issues with Plasma TVs, DLP TVs, LCD TVs… and now repair shops tell CBS4 Investigates, they are bracing for customers buying the new LED TVs

Additional Statements from Samsung Electronics America:

On February 1, 2012, preliminary approval was officially granted on the settlement of Russell, et al. v. Samsung Electronics America, Inc., in the District Court of Oklahoma County in the state of Oklahoma. A similar lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey in late 2010, was administratively dismissed by the court.

The Oklahoma settlement reaffirms that Samsung’s efforts to voluntarily repair affected products for consumers since early 2010, have been appropriate for the situation. In addition, Samsung will compensate any consumers who have already made repairs at their own expense. A nationwide announcement will be made in the coming weeks explaining the steps consumers need to take if they believe they have an affected product. For your information and reference we have attached the summary notice of that decision, which has been on the public record since the settlement was reached.

As the leading supplier of televisions in the United States we remain committed to delivering superior technology and excellent service to our loyal customers. We encourage our customers to call 1-800-SAMSUNG if they experience any problems with Samsung products.

“The problem does not affect current models so there is no need to contact retailers.”

“Affected consumers will receive a notice as provided for in the settlement agreement, once approved by the court. Per Samsung’s standard policy, in-home repairs are offered for all sizes above 32”. For 32” and smaller, products must be shipped to NJ, but Samsung will cover all costs (in both directions).”

“Also, once the settlement is approved a process will be put into place to compensate consumers who have already paid for a repair.”

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/02/09/mo ... er-defect/

Du vil alligevel ikke tro mig. Så det kan være lige meget....Køb du et Samsung. Du får nok et tilbud alligevel...Vær glad for det og kryds fingre....

Billig betyder ikke bedre...

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Penge/2011/05/11/065403.htm


Jeg kan se copy/paste ikke har levet forgæves.... Det giver ingen mening at indsætte udtalelser fra forbrugere i USA, eller forhandlere der har oplevet fejl på Samsung.

For at du kan underbygge din udtalelse om at Samsung tv hyppigere kommer til reparation, så må du komme med en liste over hvor mange Samsung tv der er solgt kontra Panasonic og andre mærke, samt en opgørelse over hvor mange tv hvert mærke har haft til reparation.
Det andet fis du kommer med kan man ikke bruge til noget som helst. Hvis du ikke kan komme med beviser for dine udtalelser, ud over det ligegyldige "samtaler" du smider herind, så synes jeg du skal lade være med at komme med de kommentarer du gør.

Personligt gætter jeg på at Panasonic kun sælger en promille af hvad Samsung gør indenfor fladskærme inkl. computerskærme, og dermed tror jeg at man selvfølgelig vil se mange flere Samsung tv til reparation, men dette er min egen personlige holdning .
Af PeterD
#185016
Uanset hvad jeg havde skrevet, har du jo din holdning og den kan jeg ikke ændre på..

Jeg må da selv bestemme hvad jeg vil skrive og hvornår...Om jeg skriver at Goldstar er godt TIL MINE BEHOV ville jeg skive det. Det er jo et frit forum, med mindre det snart bliver sponsoreret af Samsung... :D


Bevares. Jeg kan ikke komme uden om at Samsung og LG sælger godt, men så må folk lade være at brokke sig når der er problemer med skærmen...

Det er ingen hemmelighed at Panasonic IKKE er fejlfri med buzz, men det samme kan siges om LED skærme..

Jeg kan godt lide et godt billede og derfor generer buzz mig ikke, men det ville et "forkert" billede med "line bleed" gøre..

Hvis du er tllfreds med Samsung, så vælg det.

Men vi kommer ikke uden om at Samsung har nogle dygtige marketingfolk, der kan bilde folk en masse ind.

Bare husk at indstille det efter flatpanels.dk' indstillinger.

Nå. Nu har vi nok endnu engang skræmt en trådstarter væk.....
#185018
PeterD skrev:Uanset hvad jeg havde skrevet, har du jo din holdning og den kan jeg ikke ændre på..

Jeg må da selv bestemme hvad jeg vil skrive og hvornår...Om jeg skriver at Goldstar er godt TIL MINE BEHOV ville jeg skive det. Det er jo et frit forum, med mindre det snart bliver sponsoreret af Samsung... :D


Bevares. Jeg kan ikke komme uden om at Samsung og LG sælger godt, men så må folk lade være at brokke sig når der er problemer med skærmen...

Det er ingen hemmelighed at Panasonic IKKE er fejlfri med buzz, men det samme kan siges om LED skærme..

Jeg kan godt lide et godt billede og derfor generer buzz mig ikke, men det ville et "forkert" billede med "line bleed" gøre..

Hvis du er tllfreds med Samsung, så vælg det.

Men vi kommer ikke uden om at Samsung har nogle dygtige marketingfolk, der kan bilde folk en masse ind.

Bare husk at indstille det efter flatpanels.dk' indstillinger.

Nå. Nu har vi nok endnu engang skræmt en trådstarter væk.....
det er jo også en god logik. køber folk samsung eller lg = ingen lov til at beklage sig. Køber man panasonic må man klage, til gengæld vil panasonic ikke gøre noget ved deres fejl. du er så farvet at det gør helt ondt. aldrig har jeg hørt en med så lidt forstand, lukke så meget fanatisk propaganda ud. Du er lige til mandrillen. tak for underholdningen.

ps undskyld til andre læsere der endnu engang bliver involveret i peterd's religion.
#185020
Ikke skræmt, sidder bare og klør mig i skægget over hvor hurtigt internet debatter kan køre af sporet og ende i udvekslinger af meninger hvor ingen sådan rigtig læser hvad de andre skriver men bare tordner løs med egne holdninger.

Det er jo ret tydeligt hvem af debatørene der har valgt "side" og mærke på forhold og så er blinde over for fejl og mangler. Og som samtidig vil gøre alt for at farve debatter og emner med meget negativt ladede og ofte små personlige indlæg.

Jeg tror jeg har fået de svar jeg søgte, tak for indputne.

For i øvrigt så er ejerne af vt60 og st60 på avforums meget tilfredse og melder ikke om de store problemer, det eneste er et pudsigt problem på st60 med input lag når de gamer. Men ellers meldes der om bedre billede, ingen buzz og heller ingen IR.

Ikke at der ikke kan dukke nogen op senere.....Så er der sagt, ingen grund til anti-pana folkene at gå beserk ;)
#185021
kronholm skrev:
PeterD skrev:Uanset hvad jeg havde skrevet, har du jo din holdning og den kan jeg ikke ændre på..

Jeg må da selv bestemme hvad jeg vil skrive og hvornår...Om jeg skriver at Goldstar er godt TIL MINE BEHOV ville jeg skive det. Det er jo et frit forum, med mindre det snart bliver sponsoreret af Samsung... :D


Bevares. Jeg kan ikke komme uden om at Samsung og LG sælger godt, men så må folk lade være at brokke sig når der er problemer med skærmen...

Det er ingen hemmelighed at Panasonic IKKE er fejlfri med buzz, men det samme kan siges om LED skærme..

Jeg kan godt lide et godt billede og derfor generer buzz mig ikke, men det ville et "forkert" billede med "line bleed" gøre..

Hvis du er tllfreds med Samsung, så vælg det.

Men vi kommer ikke uden om at Samsung har nogle dygtige marketingfolk, der kan bilde folk en masse ind.

Bare husk at indstille det efter flatpanels.dk' indstillinger.

Nå. Nu har vi nok endnu engang skræmt en trådstarter væk.....
det er jo også en god logik. køber folk samsung eller lg = ingen lov til at beklage sig. Køber man panasonic må man klage, til gengæld vil panasonic ikke gøre noget ved deres fejl. du er så farvet at det gør helt ondt. aldrig har jeg hørt en med så lidt forstand, lukke så meget fanatisk propaganda ud. Du er lige til mandrillen. tak for underholdningen.

ps undskyld til andre læsere der endnu engang bliver involveret i peterd's religion.
Og du er ikke mærket af nogen religion?? Hvad er det man siger.....noget med sten og glashus.. O_O
#185022
Xwingt65 skrev:
kronholm skrev:
PeterD skrev:Uanset hvad jeg havde skrevet, har du jo din holdning og den kan jeg ikke ændre på..

Jeg må da selv bestemme hvad jeg vil skrive og hvornår...Om jeg skriver at Goldstar er godt TIL MINE BEHOV ville jeg skive det. Det er jo et frit forum, med mindre det snart bliver sponsoreret af Samsung... :D


Bevares. Jeg kan ikke komme uden om at Samsung og LG sælger godt, men så må folk lade være at brokke sig når der er problemer med skærmen...

Det er ingen hemmelighed at Panasonic IKKE er fejlfri med buzz, men det samme kan siges om LED skærme..

Jeg kan godt lide et godt billede og derfor generer buzz mig ikke, men det ville et "forkert" billede med "line bleed" gøre..

Hvis du er tllfreds med Samsung, så vælg det.

Men vi kommer ikke uden om at Samsung har nogle dygtige marketingfolk, der kan bilde folk en masse ind.

Bare husk at indstille det efter flatpanels.dk' indstillinger.

Nå. Nu har vi nok endnu engang skræmt en trådstarter væk.....
det er jo også en god logik. køber folk samsung eller lg = ingen lov til at beklage sig. Køber man panasonic må man klage, til gengæld vil panasonic ikke gøre noget ved deres fejl. du er så farvet at det gør helt ondt. aldrig har jeg hørt en med så lidt forstand, lukke så meget fanatisk propaganda ud. Du er lige til mandrillen. tak for underholdningen.

ps undskyld til andre læsere der endnu engang bliver involveret i peterd's religion.
Og du er ikke mærket af nogen religion?? Hvad er det man siger.....noget med sten og glashus.. O_O
hvad er min religion? indenfor de seneste 2 måneder har jeg købt 3 forskellige mærker, 6 forskellige modeller, og 2 forskellige teknologier. Så tror ikke rigtigt din teori holder vand.

Nå ja, og så har jeg et panasonic x50 i soveværelset nu.
#185033
kronholm skrev:
hvad er min religion? indenfor de seneste 2 måneder har jeg købt 3 forskellige mærker, 6 forskellige modeller, og 2 forskellige teknologier. Så tror ikke rigtigt din teori holder vand.

Nå ja, og så har jeg et panasonic x50 i soveværelset nu.
Fair nok. Så har jeg misforstået dine posts her og der.

Hvad er så din holdning: hvis du havde 20.000 til et tv og skulle købe NU, hvad skulle det så være?
#185034
Om jeg fatter, at folk kan hidse sig sådan op over at et tv af samme mærke (ikke engang samme model/årgang)som det, de har, bliver kritiseret. Man skulle tro, det var folks førstefødte, det handlede om.
Jeg håber da, de har fået løst IR/burn-in problemerne, men tror det er alt for tidligt at konkludere noget endnu. Så vidt jeg husker var der heller ikke vildt mange, der brokkede sig over IR på AVForums sidste år. Det var mere lodrette striber. Dem var der til gengæld ikke rigtig problemer med i DK. Og der var heller ikke for alvor klager over IR her før i efteråret, kort tid efter jeg købte. Så nej jeg tør bestemt ikke købe før sidst på året, og måske ikke engang da. Men jeg håber da, der er masser af andre, der tør, og afprøver dem godt og grundigt, så jeg får nogle erfaringer med 2013 modellerne at tage en evt beslutning ud fra. At der ikke var problemer med IR i 2010, og at der var store problemer i 2012, siger jo ikke noget om 2013.
#185038
Xwingt65 skrev:
kronholm skrev:
hvad er min religion? indenfor de seneste 2 måneder har jeg købt 3 forskellige mærker, 6 forskellige modeller, og 2 forskellige teknologier. Så tror ikke rigtigt din teori holder vand.

Nå ja, og så har jeg et panasonic x50 i soveværelset nu.
Fair nok. Så har jeg misforstået dine posts her og der.

Hvad er så din holdning: hvis du havde 20.000 til et tv og skulle købe NU, hvad skulle det så være?
hvis du vil brænde 20k af, så ville jeg vente lidt og få bekræftet at vt60 har fået rettet de, i mine øjne, og ører, alvorlige fejl som 50'er serien havde. Jeg synes jo også samsungs F8505 plasma er meget interessant, men det er enten 51" til 20.000 eller 64" til 30k. Det er lige i overkanten, men sådan er det vel altid i den første måned. :((

samsung ps64e8005 kunne måske også være interessant.
Senest rettet af kronholm 14 apr 2013, 18:58, rettet i alt 1 gang.